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Stephen
27 nov. 2022

Time of arrival, method of arrival, order of arrival have nothing to do with the meaning of "indigenous". Those arguments are mischievious and distract from the fact that iwi, the government, the parliament, the Crown and almost every New Zealander would identify Maori as the indigenous population of NZ


The UN only describes the characteristics of indigenous people, which do apply to Māori. The Oxford English Dictionary (Sept 2022) defines it as follows :

a. Born or originating in a particular place; spec. (now often with capital initial) designating a people or group inhabiting a place before the arrival of (European) settlers or colonizers. Also with to introducing the place in question.
b. Of, relating to, or characteristic of th…
Gilla

kob Kevin O'Brien
02 feb. 2022

With seven different national ethnic tribes arriving here first touch down takes all. They were never one nation. They demonstrated their separateness in war against each other,

Gilla

pete.kibblewhte
02 okt. 2021

According to Franksharp's interpretation (the OED published by the OUP states: "indigenous --- belonging to a particular place rather than coming to it from somewhere else"), anybody born in NZ is indigenous to the place. By definition that would mean Maori are definitely indigenous to NZ.

Gilla
Frank S
02 okt. 2021
Svarar

Sorry, Pete, but that is not my definition. It is the definition of OED published by the OUP.. The definition makes clear that Maori are not indigenous but are immigrants as they came to what is known as New Zealand from somewhere else. "Somewhere else" is from various Pacific Islands, not all from the same place, and they came at different times, Their DNA demonstrates that they originated from what is now known as the area of Viet Nam.

Gilla

Frank S
05 aug. 2021

Maori are definitely not indigenous, they are immigrants into NZ the same as anyone else, and they clearly state as much in their own recited history.


The OED published by the OUP states: "indigenous --- belonging to a particular place rather than coming to it from somewhere else"

Now what could be clearer than that ?

Gilla
BAC
BAC
01 feb. 2022
Svarar

Just plain wrong!!!

Gilla

Frank S
03 aug. 2021

The only definition for English language meanings is the Oxford English Dictionary published by the Oxford University Press. The UN, World Bank and other international agencies are peopled by a large variety of ethnicities, the vast majority of whom understand English as a second or third language (including those from the USA). Hence definitions of the meaning of words has been grossly corrupted by such organisations. Just ignore them.

Gilla

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