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RODNEY HIDE in conversation with MARTIN LALLY




Martin Lally: How Much is a Human Life Worth in NZ?


A compelling conversation with an economist about the costs and benefits of the covid lockdowns. This is not a dry and boring discussion. To the contrary. For instance, who knew that Thalidomide was never approved in the United States? That's the sort of knowledge that emerges from frank and open conversations which develop in interesting directions.


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Unfortunately looking purely at a cost benefit analysis based only on modeled death rates is somewhat facile. It's also far too easy to be wise in retrospect. At the point lockdowns were being considered accurate death rate forecasts were not available, e.g. if we experienced US Covid actual death rates we might have had 60,000+ deaths. The other ignored factor in Lally considering a 'no lockdowns' country is the massive costs to the economy of far more ill people - certainly a cost in lost productivity in the billions, overloading our already stretched doctors and hospitals, and an undoubted lack of sufficient acute and intensive care beds. Given our already stretched health system the lack of sufficient intensive care alo…


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Its funny how you didnt consider how many car acidents have been caused by cell phones. When the Covid drama began, it rapidly became apparent that hypochondriacs were in charge, and would be risk averse at every turn. My immediate feeling was that society would not survive if we all retreated in fear, because people have always played to our strengths to survive, individually and collectively, and suddenly it was like the Hungar Games, where we are forced into conflict. I refused to wear a facemask into my favourite food shops, but spies from competing shops in town would come and report mask and mandate non-compliance, to get my favourite shops shut down, so I ended up wearing a …

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basilwnz
basilwnz
May 02, 2023

It seems that, just as in years gone by, there is no shortage of unethical mad scientists who will experiment and develop the most insane threats to man-kinds very existence, as long as there's an equally unethical mad regime somewhere to fund their macabre programmes.

Most of us are only vaguely aware of these horror stories (all very hush hush) until, every once in a while, something gets out.

And so it came to pass.


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Aaron Shanahan
Aaron Shanahan
May 02, 2023

Oh covid...We were fed a litany of lies, had campaign after campaign shoved down our throats that achieved absolutely fucking nothing. And Noone here should forget the shamelessly biased reporting against those people that had the temerity to actually use their fucking loaf, and just exercise a democratic right and just say no.

Just actually look around and see the damage this response from the government has caused from their inability to think, move , and counter covid.

Nope. They stupidity thought they could wipe it out, and we had the little dance from that pretentious bitch to tell us that her word was just so. Just look .....take a break.... and think. And remember.

Never forget. Because I won't.


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mike.lowe
mike.lowe
May 02, 2023
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And don't forget that bloke who was supposed to be a doctor, who stood up daily to support the "pretentious bitch". Whilst her attitude was unforgiveable, at least it was backed by her total ignorance - a supreme example of someone promoted beyond their level of competence. That doctor had no such excuse! In the early stages, the Americans stated clearly that that Pfizer stuff did not meet the legal definition of a "vaccine", having never been subjected to the rquired long-term testing. I count myself very fortunate, to have experienced terrific chest pains which led to hospital admission, and investigations of a possible heart attack, only to be told that I had NOT had a heart attack and sh…

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I graduated from Medical School in 1970 and practced Medicine for many years. The principle of and our right to INFORMED CONSENT should be regarded as 'sacred ' and inalienable. Unfortunately, no-one can accurately predict whether or not an individual person will experience adverse effects, so the person that has the risk of consequences must always be entitled to make their own decision. We must also question whether or not government decision made by politicians "for the common good" are valid or indications of these people's excessive pride and sense of entitlement to have auhority and power over the rest of the people. These "mandates" that violate our individual rights to life, liberty, private property and ownership of our own bodies are mos…

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Dunbar
Dunbar
May 02, 2023
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Its not so much the mad scientists.... as a society we will always have them to contend with. The mad system that will put scientists ideas into production will also be with us. But the mad stupid bastards that can purchase them over and beyond a market supply and demand situation need to be put to a test of intelligence.

And a society that condones those stupid bastards needs a serious overhaul.

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