This is a must-listen for parents and grandparents of school-age children. Rata says we must abandon the term 'learners' and revert to 'teachers' and explains her reasoning. Children are also spending too much time on 'projects' and self-directed inquiry before they have the tools to understand what they read. She strongly encourages parents to visit schools and find out what their children are learning in order to bring about change.
They also discuss 'tribalism' and the 'Kura Kaupapa' movement seen through Rata's intimate lens.