Rodney talks to Dr Michael Johnston, from The New Zealand Initiative about learning, the psychology of learning ("a total lack of constraint is not good for creativity"), the unhappy state of NZ's universities, and what the Ministry of Education wants to do to science (ditch physics and chemistry).
This is a wide-ranging and animated discussion touching on the similarity between science and democracy regarding the necessity of disproving theories; the psychology of military leadership; Karl Popper's 'paradox of tolerance'; the relatively brief existence of New Zealand's universal franchise and having always taken it for granted - learning how to defend free speech.
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