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Sean Plunket interviews Don Brash on the banning of karakia in council meetings




Sean Plunket talks to Don Brash about the banning of karakia from council meetings and co-governance more generally. Sean Plunket broadcasts from The Platform

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JW
JW
Dec 20, 2022

May peace be widespread Kia hora te marino

May the sea be like greenstone Kia whakapapa pounamu te moana

A pathway for us all this day Hei huarahi mā tātou i te rangi nei

Let us show respect for each other Aroha atu Aroha mai

For one another Tātou i ā tātou katoa

Bind us all together! Hui ē! Tāiki ē!

Happy Christmas Meri Kirihimete

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I am a New Zealander but neither a Maori or NZ European.

What I didn’t like is Plunkets assertion that the ‘wrongs‘ of the past have to be righted! By who, a modern day multi ethnic tax payer who had NOTHING to do what happened 200 years ago. And what about the benefits Māori gained from NZ being settled by immigrants over the last 150 years? Can we have all the benefits back as well?

As long as woke NZers carry on with this to ideology, NZ will continue to decay and taxpayers hard earned dosh will become a giant slush fund for Māori.

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Michael
Michael
Dec 21, 2022
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You are right that no tax payer today is responsible for breaches of the treaty by the Crown, however the Crown now equates to the government of the day, and while it is the Crown that settles grievances, the tax payer (merely) funds the government.


The benefits of colonisation were granted to Māori under article 3 of the treaty.

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Aaron Shanahan
Aaron Shanahan
Dec 20, 2022

I listened to that with a great deal of interest.

I'll say this.

NOT ONE RACE, CREED, OR CULTURE HAS THE RIGHT TO LORD IT OVER EVERY OTHER NEW ZEALANDER BASED ON INDIGENOUS RIGHTS. NOT ONE PARTICULAR RACE HAS SOVEREIGN RIGHTS OVER US, BECAUSE THEY WERE HERE FIRST.

no. They don't.

200 odd years. And we still haven't, as a country, got our shit together regarding this.

None of the treaty reparations the various tribes are awarded ever do anything to avail and help those , " our people " they continually purport to support. All piss and wind. It's

All for those at the top of their little enterprise.

This has gone far enough.

To the mahutas, the Jackson's…

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These tribal types claim some sort of "indigenous" label on the basis of somehow s being the first to arrive in NZ, this of course is completely unknown and untrue... just another example of the fabricated re-written NZ history being peddled and propagated for personal pecuniary gain of a few.


The facts here could not be further from the truth, just one single document dispels any such delusions 100%, the ships log (which was the written word, written on paper - three of three things that the tribe-ist types could not do and could never aspire to do... they were clueless ) of General Zheng He, who records "dropping" them off here in NZ in 1421AD, that happened because, as…


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Lesley
Lesley
Dec 20, 2022
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The link is on the word “study”, click that

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Laurie Rudman
Laurie Rudman
Dec 19, 2022

What Maori did do was wipe out the indigenous people who were here well before them, the Patupaiarehe and the Turehu without recompense, then almost annihilated the Moriori without no compensation, it was up to the New Zealand govt not the Maori to recompense the Moriori $18000,000 for the wrong doings of the Maori "they only take! never give", but that doesn't stop them holding their hands out for more and more while this comedy of a treaty carries on.💩

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BAC
BAC
Dec 28, 2022
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But according to the Waitangi Tribunal, maori didn't seed sovereignty. So none of them should get anything.

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